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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.23 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 23/11/2009 03:07:26
 Originally by: Turiel Demon
Originally by: Tesal
Ok, now this is just getting stupid.
What exactly?
If Tesal was refering to Crystal Carb Armor Plates, I thought it was genius (being that I had plenty [relative] on HIGH sell orders as it occurred).
From 14k to 89k and all the way back down again.
Edit: OK, maybe not.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.14 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Now the question is, why doesn't somebody bloody educate the guys up north already as to how much Technetium will be worth eventually so they stop freakin' selling it for a pittance right now ?
It's not _that_ hard, really, just "lowest sell order at 100k/unit and no more questions"...
I've been trying. Unfortunately those who hold the purses don't care that much as long as they get constant cash.
"There's no such thing as opportunity cost" :(
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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:34:00 -
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Look, it's simple.
Go get your friendly neighbourhood powerblock and make them come up north to pew pew us and try to take our moons and shoot down our freighters/JFs (hell we lost like 7 of them first day of dominion in 5 minutes).
I win both ways, getting a fight without having to JC or travel and making an insane amount of isk at the same time as technetium slows to market.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.15 12:11:00 -
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A T3 can make a decent CS.
But Tesal's prices are off anyway, general market cost of the hull alone may be what he has stated, but then to even get it put together there's 5 subsystems that need to be purchased (and the non-**** ones aren't throw-away cheap).
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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.20 10:15:00 -
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I've done what I can to try to lower the supply of Tech by our alliance, Morsus Mihi leadership should also be aware of this (and together we and our tenants own a vast swathe of the North, and have large influences on other alliances nearby and blue).
This is assuming they didn't already have a clue and hadn't thought of the possibility of a cartel in Tech - I'm SURE at least one lightbulb switched on a while back and formulated a collusion plan, but I also know that some of the tech I horded very recently came from RZR moon caretakers selling to buy orders.
Well, very worst case someone should be highly aware now and hopefully if nothing has already been planned it soon will be. It makes me richer, it makes RZR and our friends richer, it makes everyone else hate us more and want to COME TO US for a fight... it's a win/win scenario tbfh.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.30 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Queen Athena
Originally by: SetrakDark
PANIC!
Last time I checked Akita still had billions locked up in Technetium, cannot be a happy MD guy now can he?
He effectively breaks even if he has to sell his entire Tech stock at 5k... so tbh I don't think he cares too much at all considering he would already have liquidated SOME and has always said from day 1 that it's a long term investment with huge peaks and troughs. Pretty much exactly what everyone else is currently stating is happening and pointing and laughing?
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2011.03.06 11:53:00 -
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Actually, as of right now (post DT), someone accidentally the whole tech sales orders up to 125k.
Yum.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2011.03.25 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Edited by: Akita T on 25/03/2011 01:33:07
Originally by: Satyri Hermides
Just a theory, but if true would destroy the wallets of hundreds of traders.
If you are to believe what several people in NC are saying, most NC tech moon owners don't give a damn about long-term marketability, they want whatever ISK they can get their hands on "RIGHT NOW", and therefore can't sometimes even be bothered to put up sell orders, instead dumping it on buy orders the first chance they get to move it to Jita.
What you see happening on the market certainly supports that claim.
If there's any stockpiling going on, it's from a very small portion of tech moon holders. Might as well not even exist for practical purposes, if true.
So, you know, basically the exact opposite of what you said, but still just a hypothesis.
Lemme put some facts into this conversation.
At least one of the big NC players couldn't give a **** about market manip on tech. I used to take my corp's dyspro and prom to market and I barely was able to hold onto it long enough for reasonable sell orders to sell because the isk was needed asap for everything (logistics, reimbursement plans, T2 ships like Logi's and HICs for loan, replacements, titans, motherships). I broached the smart idea of bottlenecking tech with the alliance and urged it to be pushed forward as an idea for the NC in general - and got nowhere. Up until I eventually stopped playing Eve and retired from my alliance there was no sign of any cartel work ever getting off the ground.
The individual corps just love their isk too much to wait. They just dump it directly on buy orders as soon as they perform a jump freighter haul to Jita. They don't care for the spread, for market manip or for just getting a slightly better return by putting up sell orders because that is work - and the logistics guy hauling is usually the guy that is in charge of babysitting the POS's as it is (or generally an overworked logistics guy). He just wants the **** sold so he can put the isk in the corp wallet because he's already sick to death of constantly dealing with he POS's as is.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2011.03.25 13:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 25/03/2011 13:39:29
Posted - 2011.03.25 13:37:00
Yeah, you know it.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2011.06.23 03:53:00 -
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Edited by: Lieutenant Obvious on 23/06/2011 03:54:21
Razor distributes the "big money" moons appropriately to individual corps. More active (PVP) corps get more moons. The corps get to determine what they do with their moon goo gold. We had massive reimbursement plans, for instance, and life was good.
Within the corps, those big money moons are controlled by the corp itself. Within my old corp, it eventually became that no individuals were supposed to have their own moons (as they were likely to have them shot down by our numerous opponents, and we weren't going to defend them with alliance assets). Of course, there were some exceptions.
As Weaslior has said (and I have iterated a few times now), it just WASN'T possible for the NC to cartel anything, because "the NC" is a group of alliance, those alliances had groups of corps, and (in our case) the corp was who controlled the technetium - not the NC, not the alliance.
And you know how many corps there were in the NC? ****ing buttloads. Cartel that.
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Lieutenant Obvious
Lobster Sticks To Magnet
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:27:00 -
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If they did, then they invested/speculated on bad info/assumptions. End result is the same, however, and the upshot is that there should be no fear anything will change now - except that MAYBE the new guys could actually cartel which would make all of us much happier.
Well, if they figure out how not to be ******ed at selling moon mins in gigantic, single lumps.
As an FYI, most of my old corp's moon goo was sold to BUY orders also. I once convinced them to let me proxy and actually market it in SELL orders (and hold off for the midweek price increase), but that was for a relatively short time as I became inactive a few months from that point. They didn't care how much it was, where in the weekly cycle it was, etc. They just wanted the isk. Immediately. Usually for that next replenishment of geddons/apocs/guardians/sabres/etc or the next titan.
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